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=== Over and out ===

A common error made in mass media is when characters, when speaking over the radio, end a transmission with "over and out". This is because the terms "over" and "out" are not synonymous. When communicating a message, if the person speaking is expecting a reply, the message is ended with "over". If said person does ''not'' expect a reply, they say "out". Thus, saying "over and out" is an oxymoron, because ''technically'' the character is indicating they both do and do not want a reply~~. In a controlled radio environment, using this language ''correctly'' is a must. You should expect reprimand and/or teasing if you ever use "over and out" unironically~~.

A common error made in mass media is when characters, when speaking over the radio, end a transmission with "over and out". This is because the terms "over" and "out" are not synonymous. When communicating a message, if the person speaking is expecting a reply, the message is ended with "over". If said person does ''not'' expect a reply, they say "out". Thus, saying "over and out" is an oxymoron, because ''technically'' the character is indicating they both do and do not want a reply.

Consider the following conversation.

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The conversation is simple enough, yet it's problematic. At any point one could make a reasonable call a reply isn't needed, yet, the conversation continues. In fact, after Bravo Two told Alpha One they are approaching the objective, it's entirely reasonable that Alpha One not respond at all. As the element leaders keep giving or receiving replies they do not expect, they become distracted. While a certain level of multi-tasking comes with the job, ~~but~~ the distraction in this situation is ''unexpected'' when it ''doesn't need to be.'' This detracts from the leader's ability to concentrate on leading their element, which could spell disaster.

The conversation is simple enough, yet it's problematic. At any point one could make a reasonable call a reply isn't needed, yet, the conversation continues. In fact, after Bravo Two told Alpha One they are approaching the objective, it's entirely reasonable that Alpha One not respond at all, having interpreted it as purely informational. As the element leaders keep giving or receiving replies they do not expect, they become distracted. While a certain level of multi-tasking comes with the job, the problem is that the distraction in this situation is ''unexpected'' when it ''doesn't need to be.'' This detracts from the leader's ability to concentrate on leading their element, which could spell disaster.

Consider the same conversation when "over" and "out" are used.

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''Roger that. Will advise when set.'' '''Out.'''

</blockquote>When used properly, it is very clear when a reply is wanted versus when the conversation has come to a close. Every time "out" is used the recipient knows they are being expected to say something back and can ~~be mentally prepared for it~~. Then, once Alpha One says "out", the leader of Bravo Two knows he does not need to say anything, and can now fully focus his attention on whatever objective his element needs to tackle.

</blockquote>When used properly, it is very clear when a reply is wanted versus when the conversation has come to a close. Every time "out" is used the recipient knows they are being expected to say something back and can prepare their reply. Then, once Alpha One says "out", the leader of Bravo Two knows he does not need to say anything, and can now fully focus his attention on whatever objective his element needs to tackle.

=== You, me, net ===

When you are are about to speak in a controlled radio environment, or otherwise know you are trying to reach someone over a long distance, you should first identify who you want to reach, then identify who you are, and then monitor the "net" {{Emdash}} or frequency {{Emdash}} for a reply. In some situations the "net" part of this shorthand means to verbally state the radio frequency you are on. Which one is appropriate is situational; doing 1 over the other is not inherently wrong by EDC's standards. The example conversation in the section [[Standard Qualification 2#Over and out|Over and out]] is a good example

When you are are about to speak in a controlled radio environment, or otherwise know you are trying to reach someone over a long distance, you should first identify who you want to reach, then identify who you are, and then monitor the "net" {{Emdash}} or frequency {{Emdash}} for a reply. In some situations the "net" part of this shorthand means to verbally state the radio frequency you are on. Which one is appropriate is situational; doing 1 over the other is not inherently wrong by EDC's standards. The example conversation in the section [[Standard Qualification 2#Over and out|Over and out]] is a good example.

This is ''not'' required for ''every transmission in a conversation''. Once you reach the intended recipient, you should still be brief and use "over" and "out" as best you can, but you don't need to keep saying their name and your own.

=== Roger and wilco ===

To reply to a message with "roger" is to indicate it has been received. EDC also very commonly uses "copy" or "copy that" for this purpose. Replying with "wilco" is reserved for when the message is an order in which you indicate you both have received it and declare an intention to follow it through. Unless stated otherwise by operation leadership, strict adherence to separating the use of "roger" versus "wilco" is unnecessary. For the purposes of this certification, you are simply expected to know that the 2 responses can have different meanings.

* controlled vs uncontrolled radio env

=== ACE reports ===

* over vs out

* you, me, net

* roger vs wilco

* ACE reports

== Cover and concealment ==

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 === Over and out ===
-A common error made in mass media is when characters, when speaking over the radio, end a transmission with "over and out". This is because the terms "over" and "out" are not synonymous. When communicating a message, if the person speaking is expecting a reply, the message is ended with "over". If said person does ''not'' expect a reply, they say "out". Thus, saying "over and out" is an oxymoron, because ''technically'' the character is indicating they both do and do not want a reply. In a controlled radio environment, using this language ''correctly'' is a must. You should expect reprimand and/or teasing if you ever use "over and out" unironically.
+A common error made in mass media is when characters, when speaking over the radio, end a transmission with "over and out". This is because the terms "over" and "out" are not synonymous. When communicating a message, if the person speaking is expecting a reply, the message is ended with "over". If said person does ''not'' expect a reply, they say "out". Thus, saying "over and out" is an oxymoron, because ''technically'' the character is indicating they both do and do not want a reply.
 Consider the following conversation.
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 </blockquote>
-The conversation is simple enough, yet it's problematic. At any point one could make a reasonable call a reply isn't needed, yet, the conversation continues. In fact, after Bravo Two told Alpha One they are approaching the objective, it's entirely reasonable that Alpha One not respond at all. As the element leaders keep giving or receiving replies they do not expect, they become distracted. While a certain level of multi-tasking comes with the job, but the distraction in this situation is ''unexpected'' when it ''doesn't need to be.'' This detracts from the leader's ability to concentrate on leading their element, which could spell disaster.
+The conversation is simple enough, yet it's problematic. At any point one could make a reasonable call a reply isn't needed, yet, the conversation continues. In fact, after Bravo Two told Alpha One they are approaching the objective, it's entirely reasonable that Alpha One not respond at all, having interpreted it as purely informational. As the element leaders keep giving or receiving replies they do not expect, they become distracted. While a certain level of multi-tasking comes with the job,  the problem is that the distraction in this situation is ''unexpected'' when it ''doesn't need to be.'' This detracts from the leader's ability to concentrate on leading their element, which could spell disaster.
 Consider the same conversation when "over" and "out" are used.
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 ''Roger that. Will advise when set.'' '''Out.'''
-</blockquote>When used properly, it is very clear when a reply is wanted versus when the conversation has come to a close. Every time "out" is used the recipient knows they are being expected to say something back and can be mentally prepared for it. Then, once Alpha One says "out", the leader of Bravo Two knows he does not need to say anything, and can now fully focus his attention on whatever objective his element needs to tackle.
+</blockquote>When used properly, it is very clear when a reply is wanted versus when the conversation has come to a close. Every time "out" is used the recipient knows they are being expected to say something back and can prepare their reply. Then, once Alpha One says "out", the leader of Bravo Two knows he does not need to say anything, and can now fully focus his attention on whatever objective his element needs to tackle.
 === You, me, net ===
-When you are are about to speak in a controlled radio environment, or otherwise know you are trying to reach someone over a long distance, you should first identify who you want to reach, then identify who you are, and then monitor the "net" {{Emdash}} or frequency {{Emdash}} for a reply. In some situations the "net" part of this shorthand means to verbally state the radio frequency you are on. Which one is appropriate is situational; doing 1 over the other is not inherently wrong by EDC's standards. The example conversation in the section [[Standard Qualification 2#Over and out|Over and out]] is a good example
+When you are are about to speak in a controlled radio environment, or otherwise know you are trying to reach someone over a long distance, you should first identify who you want to reach, then identify who you are, and then monitor the "net" {{Emdash}} or frequency {{Emdash}} for a reply. In some situations the "net" part of this shorthand means to verbally state the radio frequency you are on. Which one is appropriate is situational; doing 1 over the other is not inherently wrong by EDC's standards. The example conversation in the section [[Standard Qualification 2#Over and out|Over and out]] is a good example.
+This is ''not'' required for ''every transmission in a conversation''. Once you reach the intended recipient, you should still be brief and use "over" and "out" as best you can, but you don't need to keep saying their name and your own.
+=== Roger and wilco ===
+To reply to a message with "roger" is to indicate it has been received. EDC also very commonly uses "copy" or "copy that" for this purpose. Replying with "wilco" is reserved for when the message is an order in which you indicate you both have received it and declare an intention to follow it through. Unless stated otherwise by operation leadership, strict adherence to separating the use of "roger" versus "wilco" is unnecessary. For the purposes of this certification, you are simply expected to know that the 2 responses can have different meanings.
-* controlled vs uncontrolled radio env
+=== ACE reports ===
-* over vs out
-* you, me, net
-* roger vs wilco
-* ACE reports
 == Cover and concealment ==